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Smyth: In my early 20s, men didnвЂ™t really seem to care or notice, you know? So I think because they werenвЂ™t especially focused on it, I also didnвЂ™t think that much about it. Longoria: At first, it didnвЂ™t really feel to her like a problem. ItвЂ™s just like, I just donвЂ™t think that could be it. One friend, she was like, вЂњIs there a chance that we actually have, and we just donвЂ™t realize it? Maybe orgasms arenвЂ™t that great.вЂќ Smyth: I would talk to friends about it in the same boat. And, overall, straight women, like Katharine, say they reach climax during sex less often than others. ItвЂ™s been linked to physical and psychological issues. ItвЂ™s considered a dysfunction-called вЂњanorgasmiaвЂќ-when it causes distress. Longoria: Somewhere around 5 to 10 percent of women say theyвЂ™ve never reached climax. ItвЂ™s just not the rapture or release that, you know, I imagine is what it must be like. Smyth: What happens is that either the pleasure kind of really builds and builds and then plateaus and dissipates without any kind of real climactic moment, or it becomes a very painful sensation where I canвЂ™t keep going, вЂ™cause it hurts. ( A drum-kit beat tumbles into a smooth, modern, lo-fi hip-hop track.) Smyth: I had always sort of enjoyed sex, and really liked sex, but I had never had an orgasm. Longoria: ThereвЂ™s a certain kind of pleasure that Katharine Smyth has never felt before. After a moment of musical climax, the symphony cuts out.) Smyth: ItвЂ™s such a hard thing to talk about, right? Because itвЂ™s like, how do you describe it? Um вЂ¦ ItвЂ™s just that feeling of, like, a rush and a flush and a real, intense pleasure that feels like it-it has an end and a crest. Katharine Smyth: You know, I do wonder вЂ¦ Sometimes I think that I maybe have had them in-in dreams. ( After a beat, birds chirp, sheep bleat, and a flute-led symphony builds as if emerging into some idyllic, sun-dappled pasture in the middle of the forest.)

Julia Longoria: Just a quick note-this weekвЂ™s episode is definitely PG-13.

Additional audio from MGM Studios, Sweet Alice, Film&Clips, Fox News, Miramax, and VCX Classics.ДЄ transcript of this episode is presented below: Chapman (вЂњCasual SexвЂќ) and Claude Debussy (вЂњPrГ©lude Г l'AprГЁs-Midi d'un FauneвЂќ). Music by infinite bisous (вЂњ Lost in Translation /2,вЂќ вЂњ Why Should I?вЂќ), r mccarthy (вЂњ Fine,вЂќ вЂњ Jyoti,вЂќ вЂњ She's a Gift Giver, She's a Giver of GiftsвЂќ), Parish Council (вЂњ Same CakeвЂќ), Safa Park (вЂњLoose YamsвЂќ), Laundry (вЂњ Lawn FeelingвЂќ), Keyboard (вЂњ Staying InвЂќ), water feature (вЂњ a paradiseвЂќ), and Nelson Bandela (вЂњNo Dummms 6860,вЂќ вЂњ Hoop DreamsвЂќ), provided by Tasty Morsels and Nelson Nance. Use the hashtag #TheExperimentPodcast, or write to us at episode was produced by Julia Longoria and Gabrielle Berbey, with editing by Katherine Wells. This week on The Experiment: A personal quest for sexual fulfillment reveals centuries of mythmaking about female pleasure.ДЇurther reading: The Tyranny of the Female-Orgasm Industrial ComplexД«e part of The Experiment. And itвЂ™s almost always to the benefit of men.вЂќ

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This fact didnвЂ™t worry her very much until her 30s, when a divorce and a series of dates with frustrated men made her think she might never find love again. Katharine Smyth is 39 years old and has never, to her knowledge, had an orgasm.